OK, after having gone to the tedious length of listening to two of these Guardian Music Weekly shows without finding any Massey connection, I finally tortured myself and listened to the 18 Dec 09 show. I recommend you only listen to the Massey interview, the rest of the show is tripe. Graham briefly touches 808, it's mainly on the Sisters Of Transistors. I recommend you listen to 28:24 - 37:00 of the show only.